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(Meta) How Season 8 will end

5th September 2010 (03:04)

I've generally not attempted before to predict how Season 8 will end, preferring to wait until we had more information. But it seems to me that enough cards are on the table now that's it's safe to hazard a guess. Of course, I'm probably going to be completely wrong, but you never know... and this explanation does seem to account for most of the puzzle pieces.



So, there's an ancient prophecy about a brand new perfect universe that will be born out of the ashes of the old one. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing is something for the reader to decide, but the political (or religious) metaphor is obvious.

My speculation is that as we already know, the Chosen Slayer and Vampire of the prophecy are supposed to ascend and create the new universe: but the energy to fill it out, populate it and make it real is contained inside that glowing red egg, the Seed of Wonder.

I think there are two rival agendas at work here:

1. One side - the one which gave Angel his mission - were hoping that he and Buffy would manage to become the couple who created the new universe, allowing them to be the ones who would go on to shape it in their image.

2. The Master, on the other hand, has somehow acquired control of the Seed of Wonder, and I think he will try to use that in some way to ensure that the new universe will bend to *his* will instead.

Alternatively, it's possible that there is no Side 1, and the whole thing is the Master's manipulation from the start. Having two sides works better for me, though - and how did the Master get Whistler onto his side, if he's the mastermind behind the entire thing? Note that according to my theory, the Twilight prophecy and the Universe is still an impersonal force unwinding in the background; the different sides are attempting to control it and shape it to suit their agendas rather than actually making it happen. 


I  think that issues 37 and 38 of the comic will be about Buffy and her friends fighting and defeating the Master and foiling his evil scheme. They'll be victorious and it'll look like the season has ended in triumph... but there's still two issues to go.

Issue 39 is the one that Scott Allie has said will be 'tragic'. This is what I think will happen:

The Seed of Wonder contains the energy of an entire universe. But Buffy and Angel abandoned the universe they'd created, and without them it's withered and died. The energy has nowhere to go. When the egg cracks open, the result will be a literally-apocalyptic explosion that will destroy everything. Oops.

Then Dawn remembers something. Her blood has the power to open a gate to every single dimension simultaneously. If she can do that, then the energy in the egg won't be confined to just this universe; it will bleed off safely into all of them, and dissipate harmlessly. The catch is, Dawn has to die.

Buffy will utterly refuse to allow that. Dawn will insist. And then one by one, the rest of her friends will take Dawn's side. Spike will remind her that he died in the Hellmouth. Buffy will plead with Xander that he, above all, can't stand by and let his girlfriend kill herself; but Xander, although heartbroken, will say that it's Dawn's decision to make, not his and not Buffy's. Buffy will try to use force to stop it happening; her friends, and the other Slayers - basically, everybody - will use force to stop her.

Betrayal - the closest, the most unexpected. Dawn will carry out her sacrifice. The portals will open, the egg will crack, and the energy will bleed away safely. The world will be saved.

8.39 will end on two images: a stoic Xander carrying Dawn's body tenderly out of the ruined underground church; and Buffy, battered and broken and lost, sobbing helplessly on the ground next to the shards of the hatched egg.

But there's still one more issue to go. :-)

And what I think will happen is this: the egg contained enough energy to create a new universe, and Buffy has the remnants of her godlike powers. Maybe she'll be able to combine them to bring Dawn back again - after all, her body may be human but the Key is eternal. Or maybe she'll create a new pocket universe where Dawn is still alive. Or multiple universes, one of which is Fray's world where magic ended, and another where it didn't, and many others besides; and people will be able to choose which one they go to.

Doing this will take all of Buffy's remaining Twilight superpowers, leaving her as just a normal Slayer again ready for the start of Season 9. It would also be a nice pulling-together of threads if it's Willow and Saga Vasuki who show her how to do all this.

And maybe in Season 9, Spike's ship will travel between the different pocket universes (also known as "stand-alone comic book titles")  allowing people to stay in touch when the writers want them to interact. :-)


Comments

Posted by: fangfaceandrea (fangfaceandrea)
Posted at: 5th September 2010 03:28 (UTC)

The Seed of Wonder contains the energy of an entire universe. But Buffy and Angel abandoned the universe they'd created, and without them it's withered and died. The energy has nowhere to go. When the egg cracks open, the result will be a literally-apocalyptic explosion that will destroy everything. Oops.

Then Dawn remembers something. Her blood has the power to open a gate to every single dimension simultaneously. If she can do that, then the energy in the egg won't be confined to just this universe; it will bleed off safely into all of them, and dissipate harmlessly. The catch is, Dawn has to die.


I've been thinking something along the same lines specially seem it seems that the seed of wonder is totally about magic, and we already know something is going to happen to Dawn.

And it will perfectly tie in with the whole Sex leads to bad things happening to Buffy.
:(

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 5th September 2010 20:41 (UTC)

I suspect Buffy's had sex with no bad consequences far more often that she's had it cause a disaster... ;-)

Posted by: erimthar (erimthar)
Posted at: 5th September 2010 05:26 (UTC)
pic#85222149

I have my doubts that if Dawn were going to die, they'd give it away on the cover and in solicitations several months in advance. While I'd always considered Dawn near the top of the Potential Dead Scooby list this season (along with Giles), I thought that cover moved her several rungs down the ladder.

If your theory is right, then Dawn's action would also siphon away all of the magic in this world, and all of the demons and vampires and Slayer power. Presumably the outward pulse of magic would counteract the usual "all dimensions bleeding together" effect of Dawn's key power?

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 5th September 2010 20:45 (UTC)

It's more that I think she's going to die, but they'll find a way to bring her back next issue.

The Seed hatching (germinating?) might suck away all the magic from this world, or it might create multiple parallel dimmensions, some with magic and some without. It's never been conclusively established that Fray's world is THE future rather than A future.

Posted by: ubi4soft (ubi4soft)
Posted at: 5th September 2010 09:15 (UTC)

And how will be this different from The Gift? Dawn still can open the portal, Buffy still can close it by dying herself.

*confused

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 5th September 2010 20:51 (UTC)

In 'The Gift' they were trying to stop anyone from stabbing Dawn; in this she does it to herself voluntarily. In 'The Gift' they wanted to close the portals as quickly as possible; in this they want them to stay open as long a possible. In 'The Gift' Dawn was a 14-year old girl; here she's a 19-year old adult who has been shown in the last few issues being very determined and resolute.

So, it's different. Though Buffy probably could kill herself in Dawn's place if she wanted to, sure.

Posted by: ubi4soft (ubi4soft)
Posted at: 6th September 2010 06:26 (UTC)

I have just remembered what else is in Sunnydale: Acathla, the door to Hell that can be opened and closed by Angel's blood. I'll say Have a nice trip Angel.

Posted by: Pam V (pamsblau)
Posted at: 5th September 2010 12:22 (UTC)
Hot coco

I think your theory sounds very plausible. Actually while i was reading it, i almost thought...hey, how did the season end so fast?
It's very realistic. But what will all of this mean for Buffy and Angel? What about their current'condition'? Will someone take responsibility?

Also, very nice review of #36. :-)

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 5th September 2010 20:53 (UTC)

I'm speculating that Buffy will have to sacrifice her new powers in return for getting Dawn back. Angel, I'm not sure of: maybe him too.

Thanks!

Posted by: curiouswombat (curiouswombat)
Posted at: 5th September 2010 15:31 (UTC)
Bored Now

The Master, I still don't understand how HE got there - although, I suppose a TARDIS can cross comics as well as dimensions...

Maybe The Doctor will turn up and make it all right... probably, bearing in mind Twilight, with Bella as his current companion.

Posted by: fangfaceandrea (fangfaceandrea)
Posted at: 5th September 2010 15:46 (UTC)
evil grin

*snort*

heee, There are are things, only a TARDIS can explain.

Posted by: Mrs Darcy (elisi)
Posted at: 5th September 2010 17:19 (UTC)
Not expecting this! by immobulus_icons

*points to icon*

;)

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 5th September 2010 20:58 (UTC)
weeping-angel

Did you see my review? I already speculated there that a Chameleon Arch was involved in getting the Master back...

Not to mention that Ten and Rose have already made a cameo appearance in Season 8, so the crossover is canon. :-)

Posted by: ubi4soft (ubi4soft)
Posted at: 7th September 2010 12:43 (UTC)

Grr, your DW icon creeps me out every time

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 7th September 2010 18:36 (UTC)
dalek

I have a Dalek one instead if you really hate the Weeping Angel...
;-)

Posted by: Mrs Darcy (elisi)
Posted at: 5th September 2010 17:18 (UTC)
Bangel4evah by zanthinegirl

My current theory is that Spike might kill Angel to save the world. Both ships will be destroyed and Buffy will be heartbroken. Cue season 9...

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 5th September 2010 20:59 (UTC)

It would be more in character for Spike to kill Angel, the world to be saved, and Spike to look surprised and say "Huh. Wasn't expecting that. I just killed him on general principles." :-)

Posted by: Mrs Darcy (elisi)
Posted at: 5th September 2010 21:17 (UTC)
Spangel (sub)text by moscow_watcher

I've got it!!!

::Spike kills Angel::

comic!Buffy: Waaaaaah!
Willow: Omg the world's back to normal! Spike - how did you know?
Spike: He signalled me with his eyes!

Posted by: Lisa (shipperx)
Posted at: 8th September 2010 22:08 (UTC)

Bwha!

Posted by: Lisa (shipperx)
Posted at: 8th September 2010 22:07 (UTC)
Fallen From Grace

I'm pretty sure the Spuffy ship has already been destroyed. It's kind of hard to come back from "You died to save us, but whatever..."

Edited at 2010-09-08 22:10 (UTC)

Posted by: mikeda (mikeda)
Posted at: 8th September 2010 23:41 (UTC)

There's also the point that not telling your ex that you're alive (at least as alive as vampires get) could be taken as a fairly emphatic rejection.

Posted by: Lisa (shipperx)
Posted at: 9th September 2010 01:23 (UTC)
Lost: Prettiest

I'm not saying he was right, because he should have called. He really should have. She deserved that.

But she also knows that he died believing that she didn't love him. She knows why he thought that, and that he didn't want her pity.

So yes, yell at him for not having called. Yell at him for being an ass and for being stupid. But this wasn't even that. This was her basically going, "Your dying to save everyone was studly but it's not like you gave up trying to destroy the world for me the bestest paradise ever. Just shut up and help me fix the mess I've made."

Edited at 2010-09-09 01:26 (UTC)

Posted by: Elena Telingater (mister_pointy99)
Posted at: 5th September 2010 23:48 (UTC)

how did the Master get Whistler onto his side, if he's the mastermind behind the entire thing?

He imprinted himself on Whistler the way he did it with The dog and the woman. The Seed of Wonedr can do everything except retrieving its proprietor from the Hellmouth.

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 6th September 2010 01:41 (UTC)

It's possible,of course, but the question is whether a powerful immortal demon and emissary of the Powers That Be can be possessed as easiy as a dog, a bird, or an ordinary human. Not to mention that Angel easily spotted that the woman was possessed, but didn't apparently notice anything off about Whistler.

Posted by: Lisa (shipperx)
Posted at: 8th September 2010 22:03 (UTC)
Star Trek: Spock/Uhura

To be perfectly honest, I will kind of hate it if they let it stand that bringing on "Twilight" was in any way a positive thing (as opposed to Buffy 'abandoning' it because it was killing everyone but Twangel_Buf). But, I don't really expect them to say otherwise, so I can see this spec coming about somewhat as you're speculating.

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