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More chibis, and a poll

28th December 2013 (17:57)
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I've been spending part of the Christmas holidays designing various chibis I'm going to be needing next year, for the history of Middle-earth. Behind the cut you'll find a working document showing a group of them from various angles and styles. Can you guess who they are? :)



Also, while I'm at it, a poll for how I should treat a certain upcoming episode:

Poll #1950025 Death of Amras

How should Amras, son of Fëanor, die?

Early on, at the burning of the ships at Losgar (as per HoME)
0(0.0%)
Late on, at the sack of the Havens of Sirion (as per the Silmarillion)
3(18.8%)
Combine both stories - he's caught in the burning at Losgar, but somehow survives it and dies at the Havens later.
6(37.5%)
I have no idea what you're talking about, but I want to vote in this poll anyway.
7(43.8%)

Comments

Posted by: curiouswombat (curiouswombat)
Posted at: 28th December 2013 20:58 (UTC)
El...

Hmm - I'm reckoning the first three are Maedhros, Maglor, and Celegorm with Huan.

But I'm not sure, after that, which might be which Feanorian.

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 28th December 2013 21:40 (UTC)

Maedhros, Maglor, Celegorm - Right!

Caranthir is next, noted as being dark of complexion compared to his brothers.

Then Curufin, who was most like his father in appearance - so I gave him different eyes and hairstyle to his brothers; they're the same as the ones I gave the Fëanor-chibi.

Finally Amrod and Amras, who had 'russet-coloured' hair, rather than the copper of Maedhros's hair. They were identical twins, so I use the same chibi for both of them. They've also got slightly more doe-like eyes, being the youngest.

They're all actually in age order going down the page. :)

Posted by: curiouswombat (curiouswombat)
Posted at: 29th December 2013 23:01 (UTC)
Feanorian penguins

I thought they must be in age order - it was whether there was someone missing or the same for both twins that I wasn't sure about, so making me less sure about Caranthir and Curufin - if you see what I mean!

Posted by: L'Ignota (lignota)
Posted at: 29th December 2013 01:39 (UTC)
vorkosigan

Well hello, sons of Feanor! (And Huan.)

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 29th December 2013 20:26 (UTC)

If Oromë gave Huan to Celegorm when they were both very young, I dare say Celegorm would have insisted that the dog was also part of the family. :)

Posted by: L'Ignota (lignota)
Posted at: 29th December 2013 21:08 (UTC)
cheerful

Hee. I didn't say "Feanor's family," though. Surely even Celegorm can admit that the dog is not actually his brother?

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 29th December 2013 22:16 (UTC)

Well...


Posted by: L'Ignota (lignota)
Posted at: 29th December 2013 23:02 (UTC)
cheerful

Okay, that made me laugh. :D

Posted by: (bumbleball)
Posted at: 29th December 2013 19:54 (UTC)

About the Amras thing, it's more proof that in Tolkien lost the plot in his later years, coming up with all sorts of clever ideas that just plain didn't work in the story. (e.g. the Earth always being round, Gil-Galad being Orodreth's son, etc.)

Fëanor and his sons obsessed with "Family" so much that they're almost like EastEnders characters. (And now I'm imagining Phil Mitchell as Fëanor, and the image won't leave my head.) Anyway, there's no way he'd ride on to attack Morgoth as if nothing had happened after accidentally killing his own son. It just seems out of character for him.

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 29th December 2013 20:25 (UTC)

I definitely agree with you that some of his later ideas weren't well thought through - but he did come up with some good stuff as well.

I don't agree that 'family' was the Fëanor clan's overriding principle, though. Fëanor's own quarrels with his stepmother and brothers, his abandonment of Nerdanel: that's not a man who puts family first, it's a man who puts HIMSELF first.

By the time he burns the ships at Losgar, I also suggest that he's completely lost it in his obsession to confront Morgoth himself, believing that he doesn't need the help of Fingolfin or Finarfin's armies. I think he'd turn on his sons just as easily if the thought they were going to betray him.

As for his sons - yes, the Fëanorians stuck together, but I think that was because of the Oath, not from any particular love of family.

The real problem, though, is that there was no follow-up; I agree that Amras's death should have had some effects - but Tolkien never described them.

Posted by: ((Anonymous))
Posted at: 1st January 2014 15:57 (UTC)
Celegorm the "Fair"

Aww I really hoped you wouldn't make Celegorm blond, as it is so cliche and makes little sense. A lot of dark haired characters in Tolkien's work are called "fair" or "white" (Arwen, Luthien, Boromir, Elwing etc.) as it can describe someone of a pale complexion or physical beauty. Of course having read the HOME you probably know that and made him like that because you like it or because the different hair colour easier distinguishable from his brothers in the chibi style (though how is that gonna work with Finarfin's sons AKA the Aryan Super Squad?)
That's totally cool, personally I always imagined looking like Guy of Gisborne off the BBC show Robin Hood.

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 2nd January 2014 00:21 (UTC)
Re: Celegorm the "Fair"

Sorry! But in all honesty, I'm happy to go with the fan clichés for something like this, even if I occasionally poke fun at them.

...and now I've an idea for a cartoon where an angry Fëanor is demanding to know how Nerdanel could gave birth to a blond baby who looks suspiciously like his uncle Finarfin; and Nerdanel hits him over the head with a copy of 'Laws and Customs of the Eldar' and points out that Elves are biologically incapable of adultery, so he can stick his suspicions where the Silmarils don't shine.

(Yes, I imagine Fëanor's and Nerdanel's relationship to be passionate and fiery in every sense of the words. :))

But getting back to the point: yes, I made Celegorm blond partly because most fandom sources say he is, but also because finding distinguishing features to tell apart several dozen Elves is not going to be easy. At the moment I'm thinking heraldic tabards with appropriate images (a flame for Aegnor, anvil for Angrod, and maybe a pickaxe for Finrod?)

Also, I didn't realise before, but apparently in the Lay of Leithian Tolkien actually did refer to "proud Celegorm with gleaming hair". So there is precedent.

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