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Nightingales (various)

25th November 2014 (16:14)

Some variations on a common theme. I'm sure many of you will be able to recognise the context for each picture...



And naturally, Princesses of Doriath would ride sidesaddle. She's a well brought up young lady!

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Posted by: L'Ignota (lignota)
Posted at: 25th November 2014 16:34 (UTC)

I like them! Especially the cloak and the bat wings.

Minor quibble: shouldn't the last one be a necklace rather than a circlet?

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 25th November 2014 16:55 (UTC)

shouldn't the last one be a necklace rather than a circlet?

The book just says that she 'wore' it, not where she wore it. :)

Though I suppose you could argue that Eärendil was trying to be cool and edgy by tying the Nauglamír around his forehead instead of wearing it around his neck. Maybe he thought necklaces were too girly...

Posted by: Winter (winterknight01)
Posted at: 27th November 2014 16:34 (UTC)

ICBW, but my recollection was that Earendil never wore the Nauglamir itself -- it was lost when Elwig jumped into the sea, and all she bought to Earendil was the bare stone.

(my copy of silm is in a loft several miles away, though, so don't quote me on that)

Posted by: L'Ignota (lignota)
Posted at: 28th November 2014 03:01 (UTC)
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That was my recollection too! But something else was nagging at my brain, so I looked it up: "Elwing with the Silmaril upon her breast had cast herself into the sea" and "For Ulmo bore up Elwing out of the waves, and he gave her the likeness of a great white bird, and upon her breast there shone as a star the Silmaril . . ." ("Of the Voyage of Earendil")

That at least implies that she came out of the sea wearing the Silmaril the same way she went in.

But when Earendil wore it "the Silmaril was bound upon his brow." Finrod wore the Nauglamir as a necklace, and Dior wore the Nauglamir + Silmaril as a necklace, so apparently it was fine for Elvish guys to wear necklaces except that Earendil just didn't. I will not attempt to explain the fashion choices of the Half-Elven. ;)

As for how Luthien wore the Silmaril: "It is said and sung that Luthien wearing that necklace and that immortal jewel was the vision of greatest beauty and glory" blahdeblah. ("Of the Ruin of Doriath") And the Silmaril was set in the necklace at the time, so unless she was wearing the necklace on her head . . .

(I don't actually care a lot how you portray it. I would just feel remiss for not pointing it out. I can stop nit-picking if you'd prefer.)

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 28th November 2014 10:44 (UTC)

unless she was wearing the necklace on her head

Put it this way: are you going to try and tell Lúthien what she can or can't do? :)

To be honest, I've simply internalised the idea of Eärendil wearing the Silmaril on his brow and assumed that's how everybody else wore it unless specifically said otherwise. Visually, too, it's more "in your face" worn like that. Literally.


I can stop nit-picking if you'd prefer.

Please don't! It's interesting, and I can't claim to have memorised every word of every book.

I just reserve the right to claim artistic licence, especially if I've already designed the chibi or created the cartoon. :)

Posted by: L'Ignota (lignota)
Posted at: 28th November 2014 16:46 (UTC)
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I am really sorry. That was obnoxious of me, and I apologize. I won't tell Luthien what she can do, and I don't mean to tell you how to design your own chibis, either.

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 28th November 2014 23:08 (UTC)

Umm... no need to apologise. That was meant to be a light-hearted post (hence all the smileys) not an angry one!

Posted by: L'Ignota (lignota)
Posted at: 30th November 2014 06:24 (UTC)
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I didn't think you were angry. I thought about it the next day and it seemed to me that I'd been kind of rude and pushy, so I wanted to apologize. That's all. :)

Posted by: erimthar (erimthar)
Posted at: 25th November 2014 21:54 (UTC)

Looking at these various moments in her life, it almost seems like Luthien was a Joss Whedon character.

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 25th November 2014 23:37 (UTC)

What, a cute, slender young woman who turns out to have incredible powers, beats the bad guys that the male characters can't beat, has a traumatic love life and severe Daddy issues, and even dies and comes back from the afterlife?

Nah, I can't see it at all.

Posted by: erimthar (erimthar)
Posted at: 26th November 2014 03:02 (UTC)

And even spends some time as a vampire!

There MUST be some fanfic out there where Luthien is a Slayer...

Edited at 2014-11-26 03:03 (UTC)

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