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13th January 2008 (21:12)
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After reading the group metafandomfor a while, I felt the need of these icons. Feel free to use and share. :-)

            

 

 

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Posted by: Beer Good (beer_good_foamy)
Posted at: 13th January 2008 22:11 (UTC)

Cool. Then maybe you can give me a quick hint of what the heck this is about? It all sounds very important, but this is the first I've heard about it and I have no idea what I'm supposed to think... :-/

And I love that shot of Buffy.

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 13th January 2008 23:05 (UTC)
teal-deer

After attempting to read the post you linked to, I get to use this icon for the first time. :-)

OTW is a non-profit organisation set up a few months ago by a group of fans from LJ. Their original aim was to set up an online fanfic archive: this would be non-commercial (do you remember the Fanlib controversy?) and would allow any sort of story to be posted, with the sole exception of things which were actually outright illegal (I'm sure you remember Strikethrough).

OTW also wants to be able to contest cease-and-desist letters from IP holders on the grounds of Fair Use, rather than automatically caving into them without question as many other oranisations do - which means they need a legal defence fund to be built up through donations etc. And since they started, they've also added additional projects like a fandom Wiki and even an academic journal.

Lots of people think this is great news.

Lots of other people have reacted with immense quantities of drama and hatred. :-)

There's opposition to the fact that the OTW people are "self-appointed spokespeople for fandom". That they are ignoring certain elements of fandom, or over-generalising. People who've already created their own archives or wikis feel threatened. There's endless debate because OTW's mission statement mentions the fact that most people in this area of fandom have, historically, been women. And many people are worried that OTW's belief in the legitimacy of fanfic will bring too much unwelcome public attention and lawsuits.

And so on, and so on.

Personally I think it's a good idea, but may be over-ambitious. They're still getting organised and recruiting volunteers; it'll probably be mid-year before anything actually goes public. But fandom loves drama.

I love that shot of Buffy
It's one of my favourites. From 'Earshot', when she's reading Wesley's mind.

Edited at 2008-01-13 23:11 (UTC)

Posted by: Beer Good (beer_good_foamy)
Posted at: 13th January 2008 23:28 (UTC)

Ah, thanks a lot!

Lots of people think this is great news.

Sounds like a good idea to me too, at least in theory. Plus, if the guy in that post is against it, I'm pretty much in favour of it on general principle. :-) (Funny how people always start trotting out the "FemiNazi" argument the second something isn't male-dominated...)

Posted by: counteragent (counteragent)
Posted at: 14th January 2008 01:13 (UTC)
dwight. shrute.

Hello! I'm very new to the practice of meta. (The only meta I've ever done was a vid, so I know little of the lingo). What is a teal deer?

Posted by: MrTeufel (mrteufel)
Posted at: 14th January 2008 02:57 (UTC)

From the acronym(?) tl:dr
"Too long: didn't read"

Posted by: counteragent (counteragent)
Posted at: 14th January 2008 03:16 (UTC)
dwight. shrute.

Thanks! Is it generally used in the way that SW just did--as a disclaimer proceeding a long post?

Posted by: MrTeufel (mrteufel)
Posted at: 14th January 2008 03:17 (UTC)

Often it's a reply to a wall of text.

Posted by: counteragent (counteragent)
Posted at: 14th January 2008 03:22 (UTC)
dwight. shrute.

Is it considered rude to say that? Or is it considered ruder to post a wall of text?

Thank you for answering my questions.

Posted by: MrTeufel (mrteufel)
Posted at: 14th January 2008 03:30 (UTC)

Six of one, half dozen of the other.
A true wall of text, no paragraphing, rambling, is pretty rude. OTOH tl:dr is a fairly dismissive response, and if used in reply to a coherent, if lengthy, post, would show contempt.

So context is king. And using it pre-emptively on ones own post is humorously self-deprecating.

Posted by: counteragent (counteragent)
Posted at: 14th January 2008 03:38 (UTC)
dwight. shrute.

Thank you! That's the picture I was getting, but it is lovely to have it confirmed. I appreciate it.

Posted by: counteragent (counteragent)
Posted at: 14th January 2008 03:40 (UTC)
Buffy counteragent

Hi! Now that I know what it's for, I snagged the left-most deer icon. Will credit! Thanks!

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 14th January 2008 10:58 (UTC)

Thanks! I saw Mr Teufel has already answered your question, but in my experience posting tl;dr ("too long: didn't read") started out as a rude and dismissive response to other people's posts.

However, recently people have started using it to describe their own posts, as a self-deprecating way of saying "sorry, this is going to be long and rambly". And even more recently, they've started saying "teal deer" instad of writing "tl;dr".

My only word of caution would be - if you use a teal deer icon on a comment replying to someone else's post rathe than on your own posts, you probably need to make it clear that you're using it about yourself, not them. Unless you're actually trying to be insulting, of course... ;-)

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