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Random statistic of the day

21st January 2010 (19:41)

Because I know some people like statistics...

There are currently 2,565 fanfics in the 'Buffy' fandom housed on the Archive Of Our Own. I played around with searches to discover what the most popular pairings were. The one that came in first place is probably of no surprise to anybody, but I thought it would be interesting to record the results anyway. ;-)

312  Spike/Buffy
139  Xander/Spike
 91  Buffy/Angel
 86  Buffy/Faith
 57  Willow/Tara
 48  Giles/Ethan
 39  Buffy/Giles
 29  Spike/Angel
 27  Willow/Kennedy
 17  Xander/Giles

Spuffy fics therefore make up 12% of the archive. I was surprised to see Spander in second place though, while Spangel was so far down the ranking. I'm even more surprised to see that Willow/Kennedy got into the top ten (though admittedly 6 of those 27 fics about them were written by me...and I haven't even uploaded the one I wrote yesterday onto AO3 yet!)

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Posted by: Emmie (angearia)
Posted at: 21st January 2010 19:47 (UTC)
Buffy Happy Superhero

Victory! Mwahahaha!

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 21st January 2010 20:00 (UTC)

Bah. I just have to write 286 more Willow/Kennedy fics to claim victory...
;-)

Posted by: The One Who Isn't Chosen (gabrielleabelle)
Posted at: 21st January 2010 21:28 (UTC)
will16

*does Spuffy victory dance with you*

Posted by: flake_sake (flake_sake)
Posted at: 21st January 2010 19:47 (UTC)

How did you search? AO3 can be weird with th pairing names, sometimes a pairing wont show up just because it's written the other way round and stuff like that.

I entered spike/Angel in the search and got 403 hits, not all are really Spike/Angel, some merely contain both characters, but I think it's a save bet it's more than 29.

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 21st January 2010 19:59 (UTC)

By ticking the search boxes for the pairing in the drop-down list on the right, filtering, and seeing how many results the search came up with.

That means I was only looking at people who actually put Spike/Angel in the separate 'Pairing' box on the fic, not just fics with both characters included.

Posted by: flake_sake (flake_sake)
Posted at: 21st January 2010 20:06 (UTC)

Yeah, but it seems that a lot of people don't use the function, they just write a slash in the character box. It's hard to tell if there really are more Xander fics or if they are simply written by smarter (or well, more tech savvy) people.

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 21st January 2010 20:10 (UTC)

Well, that would be an interesting statistic itself, wouldn't it? "People who understand how to use AO3's interface the way it was intended are more likely to be fans of Spuffy and Spander than the people who don't." :-)

Posted by: flake_sake (flake_sake)
Posted at: 21st January 2010 20:15 (UTC)

Hehe, that would be fun but as it looks like it's probably a bit of a bug, since there are even correctly labeled stories missing.

Posted by: flake_sake (flake_sake)
Posted at: 21st January 2010 20:12 (UTC)

Just looked it up, if you just click the boxes, a lot of fics are missing, even such that have exactly the correct label in the pairing box.

Seems they still have a few kinks to work out.

Posted by: Ruuger (ruuger)
Posted at: 21st January 2010 20:14 (UTC)
Geek

Actually, I think the archive does that - if you put Spike and Angel in the character box and Spike/Angel in the pairing box, it only shows Spike/Angel in the fic's info in the search results. At least this is how my own fics show up in the lists.

The tags are also handled by the archive so that if you click on the Spike/Xander tag, fics tagged Xander/Spike will also turn up (and, if the tag wrangler has connected the tags correctly, also fics tagged spander).

Posted by: flake_sake (flake_sake)
Posted at: 21st January 2010 20:19 (UTC)

Yeah, I had a look at it and it seems the search functions are not really made to base stats on them.

Posted by: Ruuger (ruuger)
Posted at: 21st January 2010 20:24 (UTC)
Geek

If I remember correctly, improved searching and browsing are the next milestone feature for the archive - I think it was supposed to be done already, but got bumped back by the need to get the collections feature working in time for Yuletide :)

So hopefully it will start working better in the near future.

Posted by: Ruuger (ruuger)
Posted at: 21st January 2010 20:11 (UTC)
Giles - librarian

The archive has a bug, actually, because of which the filtering-thingy only 'sees' the last 1000 fics (I guess they hadn't anticipated any fandoms to pass that mark so soon), so if you click the Spike/Angel pairing tag, you get 95 fics.

Posted by: Chani φ (frenchani)
Posted at: 21st January 2010 20:32 (UTC)

Spuffy rules and Ethan is obiously Giles' best mate. My tastes are reinforced by statistics!

Spike/Xander is just beyond my understanding...

Posted by: The One Who Isn't Chosen (gabrielleabelle)
Posted at: 21st January 2010 21:30 (UTC)
will2

*laments the lack of Willow/Cordy*

THEIR LOVE IS SO UNCANON!!!

Posted by: Beer Good (beer_good_foamy)
Posted at: 21st January 2010 21:37 (UTC)

Clearly, that bug is filtering out all the Buffy/Clem fics.

Posted by: goldenusagi (goldenusagi)
Posted at: 22nd January 2010 00:21 (UTC)

Huh. I thought there would be more Bangel than that.

Posted by: Peasant (peasant_)
Posted at: 22nd January 2010 07:52 (UTC)

The Angel/Spike ship is traditionally rather laid back and insular, so I suspect a lot of writers simply couldn't give a damn about AO3 even if they've heard of it. There is also the kink factor, cos a lot of our fic is very heavy on the kink and so folk may feel wary of having it archived by a third party.

But then Spander was the biggest slash ship for years, so it's not that surprising it makes a good showing. Also, for some reason I can't fathom, when Spuffy writers decide to slash they tend to slash Spander, so what you may be seeing is the AO3 has achieved some popularity amongst the Spuffy writers and they are archiving their entire output which includes some Spander.

Posted by: lusciousxander (lusciousxander)
Posted at: 22nd January 2010 08:03 (UTC)

Also, for some reason I can't fathom, when Spuffy writers decide to slash they tend to slash Spander,

Yeah, I've seen a lot of Spuffy-turned-Spander over the years. Perhaps because Spander is a little similar to Spuffy?

Posted by: lusciousxander (lusciousxander)
Posted at: 22nd January 2010 08:00 (UTC)
Spander by Claudia

Yay for second place! While Spangel is canon and gets more buzz from the writers, Spander has always been more popular in fics.

Posted by: ubi4soft (ubi4soft)
Posted at: 22nd January 2010 13:56 (UTC)

But Spander have the on-screen kiss! 'Cmon most famous 7 sec on the Buffyverse.

Posted by: lusciousxander (lusciousxander)
Posted at: 22nd January 2010 17:52 (UTC)
Spander by Claudia

LOL! I remember falling off my chair when I saw that for the first time, I couldn't believe my eyes, I was like, "Joss! You should have kept that! A Buffy/Spike/Xander triangle where both Buffy and Xander are hot for Spike? That would've been a blast." lol

*huggles the Spander kissing icon*

Posted by: MrTeufel (mrteufel)
Posted at: 22nd January 2010 13:38 (UTC)
gothic self deprecation

*is disappointed at lack of Wuffy*

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 22nd January 2010 18:40 (UTC)

I think they came in at about 11 fics, but I only listed the top ten...

Posted by: candleanfeather (candleanfeather)
Posted at: 22nd January 2010 13:51 (UTC)

Weeps! No Spike/Giles! Goes away sulking.

Thank you Stephen for the statistics.

Posted by: Pam V (pamsblau)
Posted at: 22nd January 2010 21:07 (UTC)
Kiss

*does the Spuffy dance(not quite sure what that is,lol)*

Suprised to see Spander on second place, though.

Posted by: Rebcake (rebcake)
Posted at: 22nd January 2010 21:48 (UTC)
btvs_spru_goodgames

I got 26 Drusilla/Spike fics to come up, but noticed that some of mine (labeled Spike/Dru) did not appear. *runs to fix that* However, it comes up different every time! Something is wonky...

I just want Spike/Drusilla to be the #2 Spike pairing! It's canon! (Then Harmony. Heh.)

ETA: Ha! Now it's up to 38! Neener to those Spike/Angel stories. May have to accept that puppy is in #2 for the foreseeable...

Edited at 2010-01-22 21:58 (UTC)

Posted by: dancing till the world ends (lynnenne)
Posted at: 22nd January 2010 23:02 (UTC)
spangel sunlight

The majority of Spike/Angel fics are categorized under the "Angel" fandom, not the "Buffy" fandom. When you click on the Angel/Spike pairing tag, 95 works come up.

Posted by: Rebcake (rebcake)
Posted at: 23rd January 2010 20:14 (UTC)
inc_edna

Fine! If you're going to be all logical about it, I guess you're entitled...

Posted by: Elena (moscow_watcher)
Posted at: 23rd January 2010 21:24 (UTC)
Spike_Joss

I have my own kinky theory why Spander is more popular than Spangel: because Joss gave Spangel shippers too much.

Back in 2000-2002 a friend of mine was the biggest Spangel shipper. She was writing fics about them, making manips, learning to make vids. Then AtS season 5 has started and she said, baffled: "I don't need to do anything - I just watch and I get everything without even trying, because it's on the damned screen". I suppose she wasn't alone. Casual fans enjoyed s5 Spangel. Diehard slashers paradoxically felt betrayed.

While Spanders got nothing. They still have to be creative to enjoy their OTP. :)

Posted by: lusciousxander (lusciousxander)
Posted at: 26th January 2010 10:54 (UTC)
Similar by mys

You know, you're on to something. I know someone who was a diehard Spuffy, but once Buffy slept with Spike in S6, she started to lose interest.

I also think it's one of the reasons why I don't read much Xander/Cordelia, I LOVE the pairing so much, but it's in my DVDs, it's already been explored. Spander wasn't. :)

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