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We're doomed. Or maybe not.

6th May 2010 (22:04)

The polling stations just closed here in the UK and an exit poll has just been published which forecasts:

Conservatives 307

Labour 255
Liberal Democrats 59
(Total of the two combined: 314)

Others: 29

First actual result due in about an hour.
*bites nails*

ETA 22:37
Looks like turnout is significantly higher this time - and there are reports of polling stations closing while people were still queuing to vote.

Also, why on Earth is Bruce Forsyth on our TV screens? What does he have to do with the election???

ETA 22:52
First result is in; Labour hold Houghton & Sunderland South. The new MP is a 26 year old woman. 55% turnout. Labour vote dropped 12%. LibDem vote dropped too (gasp!) BNP vote down as well (yay!).

ETA 23:29
Second result. Labour vote down 16%. LibDems up only 1%. Massive swing to the Conservatives - supposedly the biggest since 1945. :-(.

ETA 00:08
The people being turned away from polling statons/unable to vote is turning into the big story of the night so far. 'Disgraceful' according to BBC presenter.


Posted by: gillo (gillo)
Posted at: 6th May 2010 21:25 (UTC)
Another fine mess

I'm praying it's wrong. ::joins you in nail-biting::

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 6th May 2010 21:36 (UTC)

It does seem unlikely that the LibDem vote has actually fallen - so at this stage, who knows?

Posted by: curiouswombat (curiouswombat)
Posted at: 6th May 2010 21:40 (UTC)
Chaos and Panic

I think an awful lot of people will be very pissed off if the LibDems end up with so few seats in comparison to the percentage of the vote they are likely to get.

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 6th May 2010 21:45 (UTC)

Probably... but then what?

Something like this happened in 1987, and what we got after that was the Poll Tax riots...

Posted by: curiouswombat (curiouswombat)
Posted at: 6th May 2010 22:41 (UTC)

Then what? The late teens and early twentysomethings - my daughter's friends, who have queued to vote, or driven 60 miles home to vote, are going to say "Why the F*** did we bother?" and they won't, next time.

And politicians will then say "What can we do to get younger people to vote?"

And the answer is have a parliament that reflects the way the population actually vote - but those who always do best under the current, not-terribly democratic, system you have will continue to weep crocodile tears and do nothing to change it.

Our system, here on the rock, is weird - but it certainly does give us MHKs that we feel are pretty much representative of the way people voted.

Posted by: The Mezzanine (deird1)
Posted at: 7th May 2010 00:22 (UTC)

Proportional voting! Go for proportional voting!

*is feeling fiercely patriotic today*

Posted by: Owen (owenthurman)
Posted at: 6th May 2010 21:41 (UTC)

It seems unreasonable that the regionals would drop so much. And if the Lib Dems don't do a lot better, it's going to result in war for certain.

Posted by: Beer Good (beer_good_foamy)
Posted at: 6th May 2010 21:45 (UTC)

They just showed some footage on TV of little kids running urns full of ballots back to the counting stations. Very Dickensian.

Good luck.

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 6th May 2010 21:47 (UTC)

At least the returning officers don't normally wear evening dress to make their announcements any more...

Posted by: curiouswombat (curiouswombat)
Posted at: 6th May 2010 22:42 (UTC)
Hmm 2

Pity really - it would bring a certain touch of class....

Posted by: mr_waterproof (mr_waterproof)
Posted at: 6th May 2010 23:11 (UTC)

So in your icon, who represents which party?

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 6th May 2010 23:17 (UTC)


I'd say Giles is Labour, Wesley is Liberal Democrat and soulless evil Spike is Conservative. :-)

How would you assign them?

Posted by: The Mezzanine (deird1)
Posted at: 6th May 2010 23:12 (UTC)

So basically, whoever forms a coalition first wins?

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 6th May 2010 23:22 (UTC)

Did you realise what a huge can of worms you just opened? They're discussing this all over the election news broadcasts right now, and calling in constitutional scholars and historians and lawyers to explain the situation... :-)

Apparently, the legal situation is that the current Prime Minister (Labour) has the right to try and put together a coalition first. If he can't, then the leader of the largest opposition party gets his chance.

However, the BBC presenter live on air just put the words "that would be a coup, wouldn't it?" to a Labour politician about the situation that Labour get fewer seats than the Conservatives but try to form the government anyway...

Posted by: The Mezzanine (deird1)
Posted at: 6th May 2010 23:24 (UTC)

Down here, we've had a coalition for so long that most of us forget that there are three major parties. We just call them "Labor" and "the Coalition" and leave it at that...

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 6th May 2010 23:35 (UTC)

Most of our parties are actually amalgams of more than one party - but instead of forming a coalition, they tend to merge. The Liberal Democrats were created back in the 1980s out of the Social Democrats and the Liberals. The Conservative Party took over a large part of the old Liberal Party back at the start of the 20th century when they split over giving independence to Ireland.

The thing is, our electoral system doesn't let smaller parties win seats in Parliament, so it makes more sense for them to merge into one.

Posted by: The Mezzanine (deird1)
Posted at: 6th May 2010 23:34 (UTC)

BTW, I am rather loving the fact that this (unlike the US election) is being done with a governmental system I actually understand, so it takes me less than a minute to figure out what's going on because it's exactly like mine...

(Except you guys so need to switch to proportional voting. Your voting system isn't nearly complex enough.)

Posted by: nmcil12 (nmcil12)
Posted at: 7th May 2010 02:06 (UTC)

AT least in your system, there is some attempt to form some reasonable formula for the different parties and factions to get work done -

Right now in the USA - we are doomed to the complete lack of getting important changes to the social, economic and political problems that are vitally needed. GRID LOCK over here is all about "personal agenda" and who can pay more money into getting what they want - everyone else be damned.

Posted by: erimthar (erimthar)
Posted at: 7th May 2010 15:05 (UTC)

Well, that was depressing. Wonder how the Lib Dems wound up with half as many seats as projected?

At least the Conservatives didn't get an outright majority, so maybe the BBC won't be handed over to Rupert Murdoch quite yet.

Here in the U.S., we Democrats still have 6 months before we have to join you guys crying in our beer.

As for the voting preferences of the boys in your icon, I'd say:

Giles: Liberal Democrat

Wesley: Conservative. Because the Wyndam-Pryces have always been Conservatives. Though maybe he'd have switched to New Labour in the latter Angel seasons.

Spike: Would look at you like something he scraped off the sole of his boot if you asked him how he voted. Unless you were an attractive woman, in which case he'd reply "O-Negative Party, love."

Drusilla (not pictured): Norsefire. Or failing that, BNP. Can't you hear the screaming of the little children?

Posted by: mikeda (mikeda)
Posted at: 8th May 2010 14:29 (UTC)

half as many seats

Basically they got a lower proportion of the votes than expected. And the way that played out in the individual seats is that it changed a bunch of them from Lib Dem to not Lib Dem.

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