There is, however, one thing that's been bothering me A WHOLE LOT about the discussion, and that's all this talk about pie. And I don't even like pie all that much... but I think there's a linguistic disconnect going on here that's blurring the issue.
So! A poll.
If someone offers you some pie... and I mean actual pie, not metaphorical pie - what do you expect to receive?
|Pie # 1 - fruit!||Pie # 2 - meat!|
Which of the above would you expect to be given if someone offered you pie?
Pie # 1
Pie # 2
Pie # 3.14159265