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30th May 2007 (00:12)
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A mention in my last post of the People Who Don't Hate Kennedy Club prompted peasant_to ask where the badge and t-shirt were.

Well, who am I to disappoint? :)


(The abbreviation is K-Club rather than TPWDHK-Club because it has a snappier sound to it, not to mention nostalgia value for anyone who, unlike me, was a British 12-year old girl in 1999).



Posted by: spikeNdru (spikendru)
Posted at: 30th May 2007 00:04 (UTC)

Love your badge and T-shirt. And, there is transfer paper available for people to print out a copy of the badge and actually iron it on a T-shirt.

But, to quote Buffy in life Serial: "What, you thought I was just gonna let that lie there?"

I am ev0l - I couldn't resist the subversion. (All in fun, of course.)

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 30th May 2007 00:28 (UTC)

I have to admit the thought of something like your icon did cross my mind when I was creating these. :)

And the original artwork is 8cm diameter; it would probably need to be blown up by 200% to actually fit across someone's chest (depending on, um, the size of the chest in question), but I'm sure it could be done.

Posted by: spikeNdru (spikendru)
Posted at: 30th May 2007 03:42 (UTC)

If you could keep the sharpness and detail when enlarging, it would definitely make a cool T-shirt iron-on!

And, don't worry - I'll be taking the subversive icon down tomorrow. I just couldn't resist playing a little with the concept. Tee hee!

Posted by: Peasant (peasant_)
Posted at: 30th May 2007 10:13 (UTC)


Posted by: tessarin (tessarin)
Posted at: 1st June 2007 17:05 (UTC)

How did I miss this.

Great work. Mind you I am about to S7 again so my post show road to cleveland conversion may be changed by being exposed to actual Kennedy rather than year old recollections.:-)

Posted by: Spaced Out Looney (spacedoutlooney)
Posted at: 2nd June 2007 00:46 (UTC)


Posted by: Mark Hunter (ozma914)
Posted at: 6th June 2007 04:23 (UTC)
you don't hate Kennedy?
Dawn shocked

*gasp* I'm not alone!


Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 6th June 2007 19:05 (UTC)
Re: you don't hate Kennedy?

Nope. Join the club. :)

(I wrote more about why I don't hate Kennedy here if you're interested.)

Posted by: Mark Hunter (ozma914)
Posted at: 7th June 2007 07:34 (UTC)
Hey -- I'm in a club!

Do you like my new icon? I hope so, because I credited you ...

I'm in an interesting situation, because I've created a post-Chosen universe in which I've resurrected Tara (sort of), but Willow and Kennedy are still together. There's not too much angst, since I'm mostly a gen/humor writer, but there have been several more or less uncomfortable encounters. And a few reader complaints, but no death threats yet.

One of my faults as a fanfic writer is that I've tended to keep the characters in something of the same place they were at the end of the series, as a tribute to Joss (ok, laziness). So Kennedy's there, and even Robin and Faith are still together. Nobody thought that one would go the distance ...

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 7th June 2007 11:53 (UTC)
Re: Hey -- I'm in a club!

Yay! :)

I don't think *I* believe that R/F will go the distance either, but stranger things have happened... As I've said elsewhere before, the problem if you deviate too far from canon-as-it-was-at-the-end-of-season-7 is that your stories stop being recognisably BtVS, and just become original fiction using characters with the same names. So it's not really so bad to keep them in the same place.

Posted by: Mark Hunter (ozma914)
Posted at: 8th June 2007 05:06 (UTC)
Re: Hey -- I'm in a club!
fan writers!

The R/F relationship is going to come to a head in my next story, with lots of big revelations, fun battles, and hopefully some surprise twists. I've written about two dozen stories now, all but one set in the same post-Chosen universe, but only a year has passed in the stories since the events of Chosen. That makes it pretty easy to keep people near where they were in the series.

Posted by: sl_podcast (sl_podcast)
Posted at: 6th June 2007 17:47 (UTC)

Where's the people who DO hate kennedy fan club?

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 6th June 2007 19:07 (UTC)

I think it's called "Most of fandom", actually. ;) (Though our numbers are growing! Beware!)

Posted by: Mark Hunter (ozma914)
Posted at: 7th June 2007 07:35 (UTC)

Oh, I'm sure there is one ...

Posted by: bloodbath12 (bloodbath12)
Posted at: 23rd January 2008 17:49 (UTC)

I would like to join. I hated Connor, not Ken and never got why people hated her.

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 23rd January 2008 22:26 (UTC)

Spookily enough, I've just finished writing a post that addresses that very question. :-) She's not self-effacing, she thinks her opinions are just as good as anybody else's, she's not afraid to speak her mind... all qualities that Western culture tries to teach us are unwelcome, especially in a woman.

Plus she wasn't Tara, which prejudiced people against her from the start.

Edited at 2008-01-23 22:29 (UTC)

Posted by: Roz Kaveney (rozk)
Posted at: 14th April 2008 15:03 (UTC)

I just wanted to mention that I too am a Kennedy-liker - love might be too strong a term. I even wrote a story specifically as a way of talking through my feelings on the subject here

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 14th April 2008 23:04 (UTC)

Well, it was "people who don't hate" her, not "people who love her"... But I think flawed or prickly and awkward characters are far more interesting to watch. "Saint Tara" only really became interesting for me when she walked out on Willow, for example.

And I really enjoyed your story - thanks for the link. The idea that Kennedy feels pressured to always be the best at everything because it's what's expected of her is very believable.

Posted by: The Mezzanine (deird1)
Posted at: 16th April 2008 04:55 (UTC)

You know, I've been meaning to join this club for a while, and never gotten around to it. But, beer-good-foamy says I should... so I guess I have to now. :)

Consider me a member. Do we have a theme song?

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 16th April 2008 12:55 (UTC)

Do we have a theme song?

Not that I know of. But feel free to suggest one. :-)

I think that anything by the Dead Kennedies would not be appropriate, though...

Posted by: The Anti-OTP (snowpuppies)
Posted at: 4th June 2008 23:56 (UTC)

Count me in!

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 5th June 2008 12:30 (UTC)


Don't worry, membership is free. :-)

Posted by: Jody (strangebint)
Posted at: 21st October 2008 02:18 (UTC)

Just what I wanted. People would have loved Kennedy in a year. How many people hated Cordy at first, or Anya or Fred. Anyway, what are the chances of you making a Connor one??

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 22nd October 2008 01:22 (UTC)
Re: Yay!

Sorry. I actually do hate Connor. :-)

(Well, not really. But Connor was supposed to be a whiny, conflicted, sulky teenager, and it's a compliment to the actor that he came off exactly like that...)


Posted by: Jody (strangebint)
Posted at: 22nd October 2008 01:58 (UTC)
Re: Yay!

Yes, he's an awesome actor. I think Angel deserved an angry teen. It made him grow. I think a lot of people blame the Connor character on season 4 being so gonzo, but it was really CC getting pregnant (which she had every right to do)Anyway, the possibility of Connor's memory facinates me and he also has/had a lot of potential to grow from being a whiney teen as everyone from BTVS did. I always say these things and no one listens. I love all your power quotes by the way!

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 23rd October 2008 11:21 (UTC)
Re: Yay!

Have you been reading 'Angel:After the Fall'? That continues what we saw in Angel S5, of Connor maturing into a well-balanced and rather sarcastic decent person. We just didn't really get to see enough of him on the show.

About the power quotes - I always loved the scene at the end of 'Lessons'; then I remembered that Buffy said the same thing ("It's about power") at the start of the episode too; then I gradually realised that different characters had said the same words in all those other episodes too...

Posted by: Jody (strangebint)
Posted at: 22nd October 2008 02:03 (UTC)

About the Connor thing part of it is I really really like boys. I like girls too. I think I like boys who respect powerful women and that was definetly Connor and Spike. More so than Angel. I can't wait to read your Willow/Snakie Goddess story.

Posted by: Sami (zgirl714)
Posted at: 18th November 2009 02:26 (UTC)

She is still one of my favorite parts of season seven!

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