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The History of Middle-earth (chibi version) - Part 200 - Thieves' quarrel

30th March 2015 (13:50)

Issue 200. We're scored a double century!

I dealt with my problem with how Morgoth must have really huge hands if he was holding the entire treasure pillaged from Formenos in one of them, by giving him a sack to hold. :)

Part 200: Thieves' quarrel

Next time: Part 201: Blisters on my fingers

Chibis by tektek.org
Original story by and copyright to J R R Tolkien, ed. C Tolkien: Primarily based on the Silmarillion, but incorporating ideas from the 12-volume History of Middle Earth series.
Questions and comments welcome!


Posted by: curiouswombat (curiouswombat)
Posted at: 30th March 2015 13:22 (UTC)
Don't want to know!

When my daughter was little we had a card game called 'I Created a Monster'...

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 30th March 2015 15:11 (UTC)

I'm fairly sure that when Ungoliant says she's not ambitious enough to eat the whole world, she's fibbing.

Posted by: erimthar (erimthar)
Posted at: 30th March 2015 13:54 (UTC)

I wonder why Melkor would care about mundane gems. Obviously the notion of monetary wealth would be irrelevant to him (did the concept of money even exist yet at this point?) And it doesn't seem like he'd be interested in or even capable of appreciating the inherent beauty of the gems. I understand why he wanted the silmarils, but not the other gems. Good thing for him that he had them, though, or Ungoliant would have demanded the silmarils first off.

That must be a Swag Bag of Holding Melkor has, there.

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 30th March 2015 15:25 (UTC)

My assumption is that it's simple selfishness and greed. Morgoth doesn't care about the gems in themselves; he only cares that he has them so nobody else can. He's consumed by jealous rage at anything that's not entirely under his control.

Money isn't really mentioned either way as far as I know. In the Third Age they use money in the Shire and Bree, and so do the Dwarves. In a note Tolkien mentions that there was a silver penny used in Gondor and gives the Common and Sindarin names for it. (Castar and mirian). But whether the Dúnedain invented money themselves or learned the concept from the Elves, we don't know.

(When in doubt, I usually assume that Middle-earth economic and social customs are similar to those of heroic-age Germany/Scandinavia/England unless otherwise noted.)

Posted by: Garth St.Claire (Garth St.Claire)
Posted at: 30th March 2015 20:21 (UTC)

Actually this just made me realize even more how utterly terrifying Ungoliant is.
In the later stages of his mythology Tolkien pretty much came to the standing point The Light of the Two Trees -> Eru Iluvatar's (aka God's) light. And Ungoliant is a creature who "came from the outer darkness" and was capable of devouring that divine light and turn it into evenmre darkness to the point that she can threaten Morgoth. She's really one of the closest thing Middle Earth has to Lovecraftian Elder Gods.

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 30th March 2015 20:57 (UTC)

And all because Tolkien was nearly bitten by a spider when he was two years old. :)

But yes. Ungoliant is entropy. She's Azathoth.

Posted by: erimthar (erimthar)
Posted at: 31st March 2015 13:53 (UTC)

Without the blind idiot flute players, though. She ate them.

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