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Mopey Buffy icons

10th December 2007 (00:08)
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Did these tonight, and thought I'd post them here in case anybody wanted them:


        

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Posted by: Dio (diachrony)
Posted at: 10th December 2007 00:36 (UTC)
buffyfaith cookie!sex

Nice. I've saved them ... good mood-indicator icons!

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 10th December 2007 01:21 (UTC)

Personally, I never get as mopey as Buffy does. :-)

Thanks!

Posted by: Mrs Darcy (elisi)
Posted at: 10th December 2007 06:30 (UTC)
Alley-scene Buffy by Anna

Well, have you ever been thrown out of your own house by your friends and family when the world was about to end?

Posted by: Beer Good (beer_good_foamy)
Posted at: 10th December 2007 07:12 (UTC)

"But at least Buffy in 8.01 knew that she was being all self-pitying and pathetic, and scolded herself for it." ;-)

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 10th December 2007 11:24 (UTC)

Yep. In 8.01 she's 18 months older, more mature and more self-aware.
:-)

Posted by: Beer Good (beer_good_foamy)
Posted at: 10th December 2007 11:39 (UTC)

As clearly evidenced by the mature way she handled the conflicts in 8.09. ;-)

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 10th December 2007 13:32 (UTC)

You're probably being sarcastic here, but actually, I think she did just that. Despite her intense personal feelings, she dealt with Giles in a business-like manner: gave him what he needed (Willow's help) without attempting to argue about it or create a public scene in front of the junior Slayers. Maturity doesn't have to mean being emotionless.

Posted by: Beer Good (beer_good_foamy)
Posted at: 10th December 2007 13:54 (UTC)

I don't know about that - she seemed perfectly happy to create a scene in front of the juniors by yelling about "Faith's droogs" and accusing Giles of going behind her back and keeping her in the dark until he (from her perspective) told her off. Whereupon she loses all power of speech and just skulks off to mope about being alone. If I were a junior Slayer looking to Buffy for leadership, I'm not sure that scene would have been all that comforting - especially if they know what Giles used to mean to Buffy. Not saying that that's necessarily OOC, just saying that it seems to reinforce what we discussed a while back: that we're supposed to think that isolating yourself in a castle, cut off both from the world and now from the one who's supposed to be a steady supplier of wisdom, and trying to make up for it with tons of hi-tech stuff paid for by anonymous benefactors, is not a good idea.

...I should probably try to stop discussing the comics with people who obviously enjoy them more than I do, I feel like an asshole every time I snark. Sorry about that. I did really like the icons, though. I've been meaning to ask you - what software do you use to make animated icons?

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 10th December 2007 18:49 (UTC)

Like I said to shapinglight before, I've got absolutely no problem with people saying "I have these problems with the comics", "I disagree with these concepts", or even "Personally, I don't like them." Sometimes I might even agree with you. :-)

The only thng that does wind me up is people mistaking their personal taste as an objective judgement of quality... Oh, and the 'they're not canon' argument. That winds me up too. :-)

If I could draw, I'd do a cartoon of Moses re-climbing Mt Sinai and saying "Sorry, God, but the Children of Israel will only accept the first seven Commandments. They say the other three are non-canonical".


what software do you use to make animated icons?

Photoshop, the same as I use for the non-animated ones. :-) Just create the icon with multiple layers and 'save for Web' as a GIF. I used to use CS, but recently got upgraded to CS3.

Posted by: Beer Good (beer_good_foamy)
Posted at: 10th December 2007 22:45 (UTC)

If I could draw, I'd do a cartoon of Moses re-climbing Mt Sinai and saying "Sorry, God, but the Children of Israel will only accept the first seven Commandments. They say the other three are non-canonical".

Ever notice how most religious people seem to pick which books are more important to follow than others...? ;-) Even the most fundamental Christians usually don't seem to have a problem driving a car on the day of rest or wearing cotton/poly blends...

Photoshop, the same as I use for the non-animated ones.

Really? Because I've seen you making icons (the Buffy Angel "241, 17, EEEK!" one, for instance) where you make the layers crossfade in some cool way, and I've never managed to get Photoshop to do that... Hmmm. Maybe I should mess around some more.

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 11th December 2007 00:38 (UTC)
surprise-innocence

Which version of Photoshop do you have? In CS3, there's an Animation palette under 'Windows' that lets you do that. In earlier versions, as I recall, you had to export the file to a separate Adobe program (ImageReady) which came bundled with Photoshop.

You 'create frames from layers', then get the crossfade by choosing a frame, and making one layer fully visible and the second layer partially transparent.

The eek! icon is actually 15 frames, although only two image layers plus three text layers. The text fades in by setting it to 20% opaque in one frame, then 40% in the next, and so on.

Posted by: Beer Good (beer_good_foamy)
Posted at: 11th December 2007 09:36 (UTC)

Ah, OK, thanks a lot! I'll see if I can get that to work.

Posted by: idiotnighthawk (idiotnighthawk)
Posted at: 11th December 2007 06:41 (UTC)

It's worth recapping quickly what preceded that conversation with Giles, I think.

In the space of, maybe 5 or 6 minutes, Buffy was

-- kidnapped out of the middle of a conversation in the room she may well feel safest in in the whole world
-- throws up in front of a stranger
-- gets ambushed by a rogue Slayer and nearly killed
-- gets *thrown out of a building* by a presumed ally
-- gets nearly drowed in a pool by said presumed ally
-- gets teleported again
-- throws up... again

Buffy was *still wringing water out of her hair* when she was talking to Giles. "Unreasonable" just doesn't even scratch the surface of these expectations that she should be perfectly calm and patient with his evasiveness on that phonecall. I'm reminded of Admiral Kirk in Star Trek IV, who could only smile wanly and say "you're not exactly catching us at our best".

In other conversations, I've described this anti-Buffy riff people seem on for 8.09 as being something like treating her like she's in "Lies My Parents Told Me" and everyone else like they're in "No Future For You". She didn't do anything wrong at all in this arc other than get pissed off about kidnapping and attempted murder... as one does, really.

Posted by: lusciousxander (lusciousxander)
Posted at: 10th December 2007 13:10 (UTC)

Buffy is the mopiest character out of all the mopies in the show. I still love her though. Love the icons.

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 10th December 2007 13:32 (UTC)

Angel might argue with you there. :-) Thanks!

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