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6th November 2009 (14:16)

Most of my 'Buffy' fic is post-TV series. Some of it is pre-series (and some of that is way, WAY pre-series); and a very small amount is during-series. So, inspired by angeariawondering whether to catalogue her fic into chronological order, I decided as an exercise to see if I could put all of mine into sequence. The challenging part, of course, is that some of these fics are mutually contradictory. I've written Buffy's final death scene three times, twice in glorious battle and once of old age, peacefully in bed: they can't all be right! So I decided which one would be my own fanon, and marked the others 'AU'. Same for all the other contradictions, so hopefully now it all makes sense...

Having done this, it's interesting to see which periods and seasons I've written most fics about. See if you can guess, before you look under the cut. :-)

Pre-TV Series

Hiywan's Story - Hiywan (OC). c.6000 BC. The fic covers about 6 years of time starting from when she was 8.
Before The Dawn - Hiywan (OC). c.6000 BC. This is soon after she became an adult.
Blood, Some Of It Mine - Hiywan (OC). c.6000 BC. About six months after the end of 'Hiywan's Story'.
A Day In The Life Of The Five Trees Clan - Hiywan (OC). c.6000 BC. She's been an adult about two years here.
Before There Was A Slayer - Hiywan (OC). c.6000 BC. This describes her capture by the Shadowmen.
Dominion - First Slayer. c.6000 BC. A few months after 'Before There Was A Slayer'.
I Am Destruction - First Slayer. c.6000 BC. Hiywan confronts the thing that killed her sister.
We Are Alone - Qusari Tefari (OC), time unknown but after Its imprisonment within the body of the Slayer.
Alone - First Slayer, time unknown but after the death of her physical body.

Sumeria 4500BC: The First Religion - Alulim of Eridu (OC). The title pretty much dates this precisely.
If Ever Before Thou Didst Hear My Voice Afar - Sappho. 590 BC.
Great Muppety Odin - Odin, Thor. Some time in the legendary past of the Scandinavian peoples.
It Would Have Been Like Woodstock - Jesus of Nazareth, a donkey, some vampire OCs. Palm Sunday AD 33.

Caught Sleeping - Luke, Don Menendez (OC). 1843.
Wish You Were There - William Pratt, Anne Pratt. 1880.
Learning To Drive - Spike/Drusilla. January 1901.
The Lamps Go Out - Darla/Gavrilo Princip. 27 June 1914.
Blackout - Spike/Drusilla. Late autumn 1940.
A Distant Echo - Spike/Spike's Coat. 1977.

Slumming - Bridget Lehane (OC). March 1980. (Nine months before Faith is born...)
Three Callings: Port Morant - Kendra. 1983. (That's assuming she was 16 or so in S2).
Getting In The Game - Faith, 'Uncle' Sean (OC). 1980s.
How Willow Discovered Online Porn - Ira, Sheila and Willow Rosenberg. 1995 (Willow is 14).
Three Callings: Boston - Faith. 1994. I made Faith around 14 when she met her Watcher here, but since writing this I've decided it would have been much later - probably about the start of S2 giving them just under a year together.
Three Callings: Los Angeles - Buffy. 1996.

There's Nothing We Can't Face - Demons. Who look remarkably like bunnies. Could be set any time between 880 and 2003.

During-TV Series

The Slayer's Handbook - Buffy, Giles. S1 during 'Welcome to the Hellmouth'.
Past Imperfect, Future Conditional, Present Tense - Buffy, Buffy, Willow, Xander, Giles. Late S1.

Yoyo, n, ancient Filipino hand-held weapon - Buffy, Willow, Xander/Cordelia. S2.
The Gift - Angel/Buffy. S2 during 'Surprise'.
Restore Soul From Backup (Y/N)? - Angelus, Spike, Drusilla. S2 during 'Passion'.
Red Shift - Buffy. S2 after 'Becoming 2'.

Happy Anniversary - Xander/Anya, Willow/Tara, Buffy/Angel. S3-S4-S5 (each couple's first anniversary).

Redefinition - Faith. Mid S3.
A Storm Coming In - Buffy, Willow, Xander, Giles, Cameron 'T-OK715' Phillips. Spring 1999, before 'Lovers Walk'.
(Dis)Connection - Faith/Buffy. S3 shortly before 'Bad Girls'.
Trick/Treat - Faith, Mayor Wilkins. S3 after 'Consequences'.

Looking For Opportunities - Lilah, Cromartie. Ats S1. Timing determined by the T:SCC pilot's timing.
An Introduction To Online Fandom - Buffy, Willow. Early S4, after 'Living Conditions'.
The Choice of Achilles - Tara. S4, during 'Hush'.
Making Preparations - Willow/Tara. Late S4.
Nor Iron Bars A Cage - Faith. Ats S1 after 'Sanctuary'.

That Other Kiss - Buffy/Willow/Tara. 4 July 2000, between S4 and S5.
For A Few Kisses More - Buffy/Willow/Tara. 4 July 2000, between S4 and S5, 20 minutes after the previous fic ended.

Stockton Gala Days - Faith/OC. Early Ats S2.
Patterns of Stress - Fred. Ats S2. Fred is still in Pylea, trying to survive on the run.
Getting Ready To Go Out - Darla. Ats S2 before 'The Trial'.
Death Is Her Gift - Buffy. S5 during 'The Gift'.
On The Whispering Wind - Buffy. S5 after 'The Gift'. (Yes, she's dead during this fic, despite being the protagonist.)

Product Placement - Willow, Dawn. Early S6.
Broken - Willow. S6 after 'Tabula Rasa'.
This Isn't About Hate - Amy, Warren. S6 before and during 'Villains'.
Deep Green - Willow. S6 during 'Grave'. Here she's deciding to burn the earth to a cinder...
On Kingman's Bluff - Willow. S6 during 'Grave'. ...and here she's started the process...
Warning: Character Death - Willow. S6 during 'Grave'. ...And here she ends it. AU.

One Day In The Life Of Buffy Summers - Buffy, ensemble. S7 between 'Him' and 'Conversations With Dead People'.
When She Was Bad - Kennedy. S7 after 'Get It Done'.
Making Plans - Rona, Vi, Kennedy. Late S7.

Immediately Post-TV Series - Including Angel Season 5

The Phonecall - Faith, Harmony, Angel. Immediately after 'Chosen' and 'Home'.
All My Dreams End In Fire - Beck (from Spike:Asylum). Early Ats S5.

Adding Up The Score - Buffy, Faith. Very soon after 'Chosen'. Buffy hasn't slept with Satsu yet, and Faith hasn't gone off to Cleveland.
Dead Letter - Xander. A few weeks after 'Chosen'.
The Splendour that was Rome - Buffy, Dawn. Soon after 'Chosen'. They're in Rome; I assume that was before setting up the decoy Buffy with the Immortal. :-)
Everything Changes - Buffy/The Immortal (who is Captain Jack Harkness). AU.
A Few Moments Earlier - Willow/Kennedy. Soon after 'Chosen', still very early in their formal relationship.
Holiday in the Sun - Willow/Kennedy. Soon after 'Chosen'.
Crossover 1 - Willow/Kennedy. Soon after 'Chosen'.
From Ancient Grudge - Willow/Faith. Not quite sure where to put this one; it may be AU.

Lessons - Wesley, Illyria. Ats S5 after 'Shells'.
Late - Buffy/ensemble. Ats S5 immediately after 'Not Fade Away'. AU.
All His Worldly Goods - Buffy. A month or two after 'Not Fade Away'.

Post-TV Series (Including the Comics)

Intrusion - Willow/Kennedy. BtVS post-S7. This is an AU fic in which it's Willow, not Buffy, who robs a bank to fund the Slayer Army.

But Then Again, Too Few To Mention - Spike, Angel. Early in 'After The Fall'.
Angel and the Dragon - Angel and Cordelia the Dragon, F'lar and Mnementh, Lessa and Ramoth. Set in an AU after 'After The Fall'.
Stealer of Souls - Angel, Elric of Melniboné, Stormbringer. Set in an AU after 'After The Fall'.

What Can Change The Nature Of A Man? - Buffy, Kennedy, Willow, Ravel the Night Hag. Before S8, and leads on to 'Legally Dead'.
Legally Dead - Willow/Kennedy. About 6 months before S8 begins (the start of Willow's 'mystical walkabout').
And All My Secrets Laid Bare - Willow/Saga Vasuki, Willow/Kennedy, Willow/Tara, Tara/Kennedy. About 6 months before S8 begins.
In Sure And Certain Hope - Willow/Kennedy. About 5 months before S8 begins. Kennedy's been dead for a month since 'Legally Dead'.

Project - Renee. S8 before 'The Long Way Home'.
Things The Slayer Handbook Doesn't Tell You About #1 - Buffy, Faith. S8 before 'The Long Way Home'. Faith's in Cleveland.
Three Dimensional Spatial Awareness Training - Andrew, Donna. S8 before 'The Long Way Home'.

That Kiss - Willow, Buffy. S8 after 'The Long Way Home' Part 2.
Netherlands to Nepal - Willow/Dawn. Early S8 (now AU).
We Just Declared War - Buffy, Ellen Ripley, others. Early S8 after 'The Long Way Home'.
...And Shopping - Buffy, Satsu. S8 before 'A Beautiful Sunset'.
Unstylish Yet High-Priced Boots - Buffy/Satsu. S8 before 'A Beautiful Sunset'.
Tradition - Xander, Renee, Leah. S8, 26 December 200X, before 'A Beautiful Sunset'.
Performance Review - Satsu, Kennedy. S8, after 'Wolves At The Gate'.
Lost and Found - Satsu, others. S8, before and after 'Swell'.
Cinnamon Is Not The Only Chapstick - Satsu/Kennedy. S8, immediately after 'Swell'.
In The Encircling Night - S8, before 'Safe'.
Majestic Creatures Of Legend - Xander/Dawn. S8, between 'Time Of Your Life' and 'Living Doll'.
Behind The Mask - Twilight, Adelle, Topher. S8, just before 'Retreat'.

How The Heroes Die: Faith - Faith. 19 April 2007. (Purely because of the date I gave to her death in 'Hell's Heart').
Hell's Heart - Faith, St Peter, St Michael. 22 April 2007. (So in my fanon she dies at 27, about three years after the end of season 8.)
For The Fallen - Buffy. Post-S8. Several years after 'Chosen'. (There are people to mourn; probably including Faith given the above.)

It's Curtains For You, Slayer - Buffy/Spike. Post-S8. (May be AU depending on whether she ever meets Spike again.)
...When Death Is On The Line - Spike, DEATH. Post-S8.

Matthew 1.23, Except Not - Willow, Buffy. Early 2011. (Buffy is 30 years old, Willow is 29, Kennedy is 8 days pregnant.)
Torment - Willow/Kennedy. Late 2011, nine months after the previous fic, give or take a week.

Once and Future - Buffy, Xander, Willow. AU post-series.
The Chooser and the Chosen - Buffy, Odin, a Valkyrie. AU post-series.

How The Heroes Die: Buffy ; How The Heroes Die: Willow - Buffy, Willow. Probably about 2075, based on Buffy being 94 when she dies peacefully in bed.

Second Meeting - Melaka Fray, Icarus. c. 2300 (during the 'Fray' comic book').
Just Another Day - Melaka Fray. c. 2300 (after the 'Fray' comic book').
Earth That Was - OC Slayer. c. 2420 (Humanity abandons Earth for the Firefly 'Verse).


That's it for now. :-) For links to the fics, see sidebar with fic index. And finally, a question; who's the most obscure real-life person you've given a cameo in one of your fics?


Posted by: Caroline (jamalov29)
Posted at: 6th November 2009 16:53 (UTC)
buffy manip-zugma

That is an impressive list of fictions!

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 7th November 2009 00:15 (UTC)

Thanks! Though a lot of them are only drabbles...

Posted by: Caroline (jamalov29)
Posted at: 7th November 2009 11:28 (UTC)
buffy manip-zugma

Could you direct me to your three Buffy's final death fics ,please ?

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 7th November 2009 13:21 (UTC)

Sure. :-)

The Chooser and the Chosen
(warning: bad poetry)

Once and Future
(Warning: Thomas Malory pastiche)

How The Heroes Die

'How The Heroes Die' is the one I think is moy own cpersonal canon, but I do like the writing of 'Once And Future'. I can only apologise for the other one. :-)

Oh, and 'On The Whispering Wind' also concerns Buffy's death, but it's about what happened to her after she died in 'The Gift'.

Posted by: Caroline (jamalov29)
Posted at: 7th November 2009 20:20 (UTC)

Thank you .:)
In my own personal canon some days Buffy is dying of old age and some other days she's giving up ( well,not really )while fighting - not too young though.
I loved your take in "Once and Future" , my favourite of the three.

Posted by: Emmie (angearia)
Posted at: 6th November 2009 18:51 (UTC)

This list makes me happy. :D

And I'm impressed at your range of fiction in terms of time period.

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 7th November 2009 00:16 (UTC)

I have a degree in history. Sometimes, it shows. :-)


Posted by: erimthar (erimthar)
Posted at: 6th November 2009 20:34 (UTC)

Wow. I wish I could find the inspiration to write that much Buffy fic. How long have you been at it?

Just realized I've never written a Buffy story set earlier than the season 5/6 interval ("To Live In It"). That's about to change, though, as my next one moves back and forth from 1934 to sometime in season 5.

I don't think I've ever given a cameo to a real-life person in any of my stories, Buffy or otherwise. Which is probably for the best.

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 7th November 2009 00:18 (UTC)

Since 16 October 2006, according to my fanfic index. :-) I think the first cameo I created was Gavrilo Princip.

Posted by: The One Who Isn't Chosen (gabrielleabelle)
Posted at: 6th November 2009 20:47 (UTC)

Whoa. That's a lot of fic.

Somehow, I think I'm far too lazy to order mine like that.

And finally, a question; who's the most obscure real-life person you've given a cameo in one of your fics?

I...actually don't have RL cameos in my fics...

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 7th November 2009 00:23 (UTC)

Well, most of them are drabbles. I don't usually count them when I talk about my fic, but for a list like this, they help to add variety - and some of them, like the ones about Hiywan, were important for sparking off ideas that would later develop into full-scale stories.

But in total, I doubt that the amount of fic I've written would be much more than 100,000 words over three years - and some people write more than that in a single multi-chapter fic.

Posted by: The Mezzanine (deird1)
Posted at: 7th November 2009 01:09 (UTC)

(You know... if you added links to the story titles, it'd be an incredibly useful fic list...

...I'm just saying.)

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 7th November 2009 01:50 (UTC)

It would also have taken about four times longer to put together - and it already took several hours - which is why I briefly considered the option, then decided to add the last line about my fic index instead. Sorry. :-(

Posted by: Emmie (angearia)
Posted at: 7th November 2009 02:00 (UTC)

I imagine it did take a long time to order it all.

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 7th November 2009 02:08 (UTC)

I started with the cut-and-paste text from my fic index - which I had to update anyway - edited it down, then started pasting things under the right headings. Then puzzled over the ones which didn't quite fit together.

It was interesting to see how it all took shape, and how most of it is coherent even though I didn't write it to form a single continuity. (Though more recently I have started adding in little snippets into fics to link them to others I've written, like the ending of 'What Can Change The Nature Of A Man?' having a line through in to foreshadow the Willow/Saga Vasuki/Kennedy fics I wrote earlier.)

If I'd left out the drabbles, I think there'd have been far fewer fics taking place during the series.

Posted by: Emmie (angearia)
Posted at: 7th November 2009 02:16 (UTC)

For the most part, I try adhering to canon when I write stories - Kinda slip-into-the cracks fic - so I doubt it'd be hard for me to organize it. But it starts to get weird post-series. I'd probably take "Thought You Should Know" as my canon. And it's so interesting for me to realize that I made it go AU from Season 8 right before "Safe" - and that I brought Giles and Faith back into the story without ever mentioning Germany. Is my bias showing? :D

But making TYSK my fic canon, means that all these other Buffy/Spike reunions I've written post-series are all AUs. Though my other Season 8 fic still fits in fairly well.

But then I also have all this undefined happy future fic that just happens in a distant, unspecified time post-series and I don't know where any of it would go.

I'm giving myself a headache!

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 7th November 2009 13:56 (UTC)

Not all your fic has to form one single continuous canon, you know. Let it go. Relax... Surrender... free yourself of entanglements, for they trap you within Samsara...

Posted by: Emmie (angearia)
Posted at: 7th November 2009 16:27 (UTC)

LOL! The headache came from trying to figure out which ones I'd consider AU. You're the one who got me thinking about canon in my own fic - I blame you!

Posted by: The Mezzanine (deird1)
Posted at: 4th December 2009 03:05 (UTC)
pencil (issues)


Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 5th December 2009 21:13 (UTC)


*blink blink*

You did a chronological index of all my fic?

{Andrew}You are the perfect woman.{/Andrew}

I'm deeply indebted to you, m'lady. :-)

What now? Should I post a link to your journal? Copy and paste your post into my own LJ?

Posted by: The Mezzanine (deird1)
Posted at: 5th December 2009 23:08 (UTC)


What now? Should I post a link to your journal? Copy and paste your post into my own LJ?

That's entirely up to you. (Although I want a pony. And possibly your firstborn.)

If you'd like, I can email you the html...

Posted by: Beer Good (beer_good_foamy)
Posted at: 7th November 2009 10:57 (UTC)

Interesting. Any words on why you prefer post-series to during?

I've written Buffy's final death scene three times, twice in glorious battle and once of old age, peacefully in bed: they can't all be right!

You do realise this is Buffy the Vampire Slayer, right? ;-)

And finally, a question; who's the most obscure real-life person you've given a cameo in one of your fics?

I've had Jerry Seinfeld and Wild Bill Hickok show up. Of course, that might be their fictional versions from Deadwood and Seinfeld. And Alyson Hannigan is sort of in one. Oh, and Jesus and his dad are in one. Some might count that. :-)

Posted by: StephenT (stormwreath)
Posted at: 7th November 2009 13:26 (UTC)

The thing is, my fic of Buffy dying in bed has her saying "Third time lucky" as her last words - not "Fifth time lucky". :-)

I think there's a couple of reqasons why I prefer post-series fic:

1. I like to stick to canon as far as possible, which means that I'm restricted to missing scenes and FTIBs during the series; after it, there's much more freedom.

2. Now Season 8 is running, it's creating plotbunnies that haven't been done to death by 300 other people all wiriting about the same subject. Not to mention S8 is creating mysteries which may or may not be explained in canon, but gives lots of scope for suggesting my own interpretations.

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